Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/26/2003 09:03 AM Senate FIN

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                              MINUTES                                                                                         
                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                          March 26, 2003                                                                                      
                              9:03 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken convened  the meeting at approximately 9:03 AM.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Con Bunde, Vice Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Robin Taylor                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:    PAT PITNEY,  Director, Budget  and Institutional                                                           
Research, University  of Alaska; MIKE  MAHER, Director, Division  of                                                            
Administrative  Services, Department of Environmental  Conservation;                                                            
TOM  CHAPPEL,   Director,  Division   of  Air  and  Water   Quality,                                                            
Department of Environmental  Conservation; LARRY DIETRICK, Director,                                                            
Division   of  Spill   Prevention   and  Response,   Department   of                                                            
Environmental  Conservation;   DAN  EASTON,  Director,  Division  of                                                            
Facility  Construction and  Operation, Department  of Environmental                                                             
Conservation;                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Attending  via  Teleconference:     There  were  no  teleconference                                                           
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 100-APPROP: CAPITAL PROJECTS                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  heard overviews of budget requests  of the University                                                            
of Alaska  and the  Department  of Environmental  Conservation.  The                                                            
bill was held in Committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 100                                                                                                        
     "An  Act making capital  appropriations  and reappropriations;                                                             
     capitalizing a fund;  making appropriations under art. IX, sec.                                                            
     17(c),   Constitution  of  the   State  of  Alaska,   from  the                                                            
     constitutional   budget reserve  fund;  and  providing  for  an                                                            
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
University of Alaska                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PAT PITNEY, Director, Budget  and Institutional Research, University                                                            
of Alaska noted the Board  of Regents submitted a funding request as                                                            
well. She stressed  that the Governor's  proposed budget  represents                                                            
approximately one-tenth the amount recommended by the Board.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Safety and Highest Priority Renewal and Replacement                                                                        
     $3,000,000 Alaska Student Loan Corporation (ASLC) Dividend                                                                 
     $641,500 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 38415                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     Phased-New Project                                                                                                         
     Projects  in this category  include  highest priority  facility                                                            
     renewal  and replacement,  code correction  and Americans  with                                                            
     Disabilities   Act  (ADA)  projects.  An  investment   in  this                                                            
     category represents  a commitment to improve student safety and                                                            
     maintain  building  functionality.  Fire  Safety  and  Elevator                                                            
     Safety  and  Modernization  Projects  top  this  list,  as  the                                                            
     university's most vital safety needs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney stated  this request would include elevator  repair, fire                                                            
safety, etc. that have a highest safety priority.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if  these are listed in the backup material in                                                            
order of priority.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney replied  there  is no  priority  order as  they are  all                                                            
important.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken surmised  therefore the amount appropriated would be                                                            
distributed as best as possible between all projects.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  noted no  projects  listed  are located  on  rural                                                            
campuses and asked  whether no life, health and safety  issues exist                                                            
in those areas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney pointed out  the Board of Regents request for $971,000 to                                                            
address community campus needs.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked that the process  utilized to evaluate  those                                                            
projects be included in the budget request.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney explained  how  each campus  submits  list of  projects,                                                            
which are compiled  according to criterion established  by the Board                                                            
of Regents. She stated the Board then reviews the projects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  requested an explanation  of the ASLC Dividends  and                                                            
University receipts funding sources.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney stated  the University views the ASLC dividends  as State                                                            
funding  appropriated  at the  discretion  of the  legislature.  She                                                            
noted the University  receipts are  generated from tuition,  private                                                            
partnerships,  donations,  foundation receipts,  auxiliary  receipts                                                            
collected from dormitory and food services, etc.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Attracting and Retaining Students                                                                                          
     $10,800,000 University Receipts                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 38419                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     Phased-New Project                                                                                                         
     This request contains projects essential to the University's                                                               
     goal of attracting and retaining students.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  stated this item includes  two projects: a bookstore  at                                                            
the Anchorage campus and student housing.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  asked if funds from other sources  were intended for                                                            
use on the bookstore project.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  affirmed  and  explained   the  issuance  of  bonds  to                                                            
construct the  dormitories. She informed  this is standard  practice                                                            
of university funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Small Business Development Center                                                                                          
     $550,000 general funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 37926                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Anchorage Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Anchorage Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     Phased Project                                                                                                             
     The  Alaska  Small Business  Development  Center  (ASBDC) is  a                                                            
     statewide  business assistance program. The services  it offers                                                            
     to  small businesses  are  not duplicated  or  provided by  any                                                            
     other  agency  or organization.  The  primary  emphasis of  the                                                            
     program  is  in-depth,  quality  business  counseling.  Through                                                            
     professional  counseling,  small  businesses  are  assisted  in                                                            
     solving   problems   concerning   operations,   manufacturing,                                                             
     engineering technology  exchange, accounting, business strategy                                                            
     development and other  productivity and management improvement.                                                            
     The  individual   business  counseling  is  supplemented   with                                                            
     quality  business training designed  to improve the  skills and                                                            
     knowledge   of   existing  and   prospective   small   business                                                            
     owners/managers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted the $100,000 increase over  the previous year                                                            
funding and requested an explanation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney replied  this request is for operating  funds and pointed                                                            
out that no  increases had been allocated  to this program  for over                                                            
ten  years. He  stated  the amount  requested  recognizes  increased                                                            
expenses and also would secure other matching funds.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked if clients are assessed a fee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney replied that  in some instances fees are charged to cover                                                            
operating expenses.  She also informed  that some local governments                                                             
contribute significantly  to the operating expenses  for the offices                                                            
in their communities.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked if  the local government  contributions  were                                                            
utilized to  offset the general funds  appropriated to the  program.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney responded the  contributions are necessary to provide the                                                            
services  in the participating  communities  and that general  funds                                                            
are  utilized for  core operating  expenses.  She  remarked that  if                                                            
unlimited  funds were  available, the  program would  be offered  in                                                            
several communities.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if the university instituted  a method to track                                                            
the effectiveness of this service.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney answered  it does and stated she could  provide extensive                                                            
evidence of the success  of the program. She listed testimonials and                                                            
noted startup support is provided to small businesses.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  noted  the  claim  of  no  duplication  of  services                                                            
provided by other  organizations and asked if this  includes private                                                            
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney understood the claim to include other State services.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde told  of  private service  providers  complaining  of                                                            
unfair competition from the University.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Taylor  commented   on  museums   and  other  educational                                                             
facilities  located in his election  district incurring significant                                                             
funding reductions.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     University Center - Phase 2                                                                                                
     $2,400,000 University Receipts                                                                                             
     Reference No.: 37841                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Anchorage Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Anchorage Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     Phased Project                                                                                                             
     Phase II  of the University Center project would  encompass the                                                            
     acquisition  of an additional  35,000 gsf in turnkey  condition                                                            
     to  house  UAA   workforce  development,  training   and  adult                                                            
     learning   center  programs.  These  programs   have  a  direct                                                            
     relationship   to   the  applied   technology   and   workforce                                                            
     development  programs accommodated  in Phase I of the  project.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  explained  this funding  is  generated  primarily  from                                                            
private partnerships.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  noted  the Board  of  Regents'  request  included  $3.4                                                            
million State funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde   revisited  his  earlier   comments  regarding   the                                                            
University  providing  services  in  competition  with  the  private                                                            
sector. He  asked if the workforce  development, training  and adult                                                            
education services could be provided by a private entity.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney was unsure, but stated she would research the matter.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  compared the  Governor's  proposed  budget to  the                                                            
Capital Budget Request  Summary submitted by the University [copy on                                                            
file] and  asked if the  numbering of the  proposed projects  in the                                                            
Summary is based on priority assigned by the Board of Regents.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney affirmed the items are prioritized within categories.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked if the nursing  facility would be  addressed.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  replied that funding is  not included in the  Governor's                                                            
proposed budget.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  clarified the cost of the University  Center - Phase                                                            
II project  is  a $5.8  million project  including  $3.4 million  in                                                            
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  explained  that the  conceived project  would cost  $5.8                                                            
million  and although  the entire  amount  would not  allow for  the                                                            
project as planned, other options would be reviewed.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  asked the amount of University receipts  anticipated                                                            
would be used to fund this project.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney told  of separate legislation authorizing  an expenditure                                                            
of an estimated $14 million for Phase I of the project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  recalled earlier discussions  indicated the  project                                                            
would have significant lower costs.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained the  previous proposal two years prior involved                                                            
the purchase  of unrenovated  empty  space as opposed  to a  turnkey                                                            
purchase as specified  in this project. She suggested  Members visit                                                            
the facility in question.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  commented  that  at  a cost  of  $20  million,  the                                                            
facility should be "amazing".                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked the location of the facility.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney responded  it would be within the University  Center Mall                                                            
in Anchorage on Old Seward Highway.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator B.  Stevens interjected that  a portion of funding  for this                                                            
project was included  in the bond package approved  by voters in the                                                            
previous election.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor spoke of  another proposed projects including the on-                                                            
going  renovation of  a hanger  in Sitka  into classrooms  that  was                                                            
identified  as the second highest  priority by the Board  of Regents                                                            
but not included in this budget.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  requested the witness  overview the items  included                                                            
in  the  Governor's  proposed  budget  then  provide  another  brief                                                            
overview of the Board's requests.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the  number of students  who would utilize  the                                                            
Sitka facility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney described the  classrooms, laboratories, etc. She did not                                                            
have a specific  number of students who would utilize  the facility,                                                            
although  approximately  1,200  students  attend the  University  of                                                            
Alaska Southeast Sitka campus.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked  if  the  $3.4  million  additional   funding                                                            
requested by the Board of Regents included elsewhere.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney answered it is not.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked whether  the private  partnership funding  is                                                            
dependant upon receipt of State funding.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney told  of  the current  plan  that includes  two  funding                                                            
sources  and  that  a State  appropriation  would  be  necessary  to                                                            
complete  the project.  She  furthered  that the  receipt  authority                                                            
would  provide the  ability  to pursue  other funding  sources.  She                                                            
indicated other options could be considered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked therefore  why  the legislature  should  not                                                            
grant  authority for  the entire  $5.8  million in  the event  other                                                            
funds could be secured.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  replied, "part  of the $2.4 million  figure is  based on                                                            
affordability  within the University  for those items" and  what was                                                            
expected  to  be the  amount  that  could be  raised  through  other                                                            
sources.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor asked  whether  the project  could  be amended  were                                                            
adequate  funding   not  provided  for  the  project   as  currently                                                            
proposed.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney responded that  if State funds were not appropriated, the                                                            
current plan must be changed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Replacement of Research Vessel                                                                                             
     $80,000,000 University Receipts                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 37823                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-time Project                                                                                                           
     Replacement for the Alpha Helix research vessel.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney explained  the concept that the federal  government would                                                            
contract for  construction of a ship  to be given to the  University                                                            
to manage  and  conduct research  activities  in  the north  Pacific                                                            
Ocean.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked if  the vessel  would then  be operated  at the                                                            
University's expense.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney detailed  the  process of  research  facilities  whereby                                                            
research  grants take  into account  operation of  the facility,  in                                                            
this case a ship.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde commented  that if no research grants were awarded the                                                            
ship would sit idle.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  affirmed,  but  stressed that  the  current  vessel  is                                                            
heavily utilized with more  requests for research project than could                                                            
be met.  She noted  the planned vessel would accommodate  additional                                                            
research activities  and she assured  the vessel would not  be idle.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  noted the $75 million  allocation from the  National                                                            
Science Foundation,  although the  actual cost could be $80  million                                                            
and asked how the remaining $5 million would be generated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  responded that  other federal  funds would be  utilized,                                                            
possibly from  the National Oceanic  and Atmospheric Administration                                                             
(NOAA)                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator B. Stevens questioned  why the proposed budget contains this                                                            
request  for receipt  authority  when  the  federal funding  is  not                                                            
included in federal legislation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  expressed  this  project is  one  of  the University's                                                             
highest  priorities  and that  this  authorization  would ensure  no                                                            
delay once the federal funding is officially provided.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B. Stevens  asked  at  what point  the  University  obtains                                                            
control  of  the vessel,  once  it  is constructed  or  upon  actual                                                            
delivery  to Alaska.  He estimated  18 months would  be required  to                                                            
construct the  vessel and questioned the need for  receipt authority                                                            
given that the  vessel would not be completed until  FY 05 or FY 06.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney emphasized the efforts to plan ahead.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked where the vessel  would likely be constructed.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney did not know.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Small Project Receipt Authority                                                                                            
     $5,000,000 University Receipts                                                                                             
     Reference No.: 37852                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2009                                                                           
     One-time Project                                                                                                           
     The value of this request is an estimation of potential                                                                    
     receipt authority needed for FY 04 for main and community                                                                  
     campuses.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
And                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Project and Planning Receipt Authority                                                                                     
     $10,000,000 University Receipts                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 38422                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-time Project                                                                                                           
     This request for non-general fund authority will allow the                                                                 
     university to make expenditures in response to emerging needs                                                              
     that can be self-funded or partially self-funded.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney expressed the intent to take advantage of opportunities                                                              
to partner with the federal government or private foundations.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked for an example of projects that would be                                                                  
undertaken with these funds.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  exampled the pavilion  located in Juneau. She  also told                                                            
of advance plans  to construct a research facility  in Fairbanks and                                                            
integrated  science  facility  in  Anchorage  utilizing   foundation                                                            
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     West Ridge Research Building                                                                                               
     $2,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     $14,000,000 University Receipts                                                                                            
     Reference No.: 38475                                                                                                       
     Category: University                                                                                                       
     Location: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                               
     Election District: Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Provide authority to receive funds to build West Ridge                                                                     
     Research Building.                                                                                                         
And                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Yukon Flats Training Center Expansion Completion                                                                           
     $1,200,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     $1,100,000 University Receipts                                                                                             
     Reference  No.: 38514                                                                                                      
     Category:  University                                                                                                      
     Location:  Fort Yukon                                                                                                      
     Election District: Interior Villages                                                                                       
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2007                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Authority  is requested  to receive funding  from the  Economic                                                            
     Development  Administration (EDA)  and other sources  to expand                                                            
     the Yukon  Flats Training Center.  The addition will  house the                                                            
     computer  lab and  provide space  for uliti-day  or  multi-week                                                            
     training programs in Voc-Tech and other disciplines.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  noted  these items  reflect technical  adjustments.  She                                                            
explained  the West Ridge  facility would  be constructed  utilizing                                                            
bonding  authority  and  the  bonds would  be  re-payed  with  grant                                                            
funding for research activities conducted within the facility.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  furthered  that  the Yukon  Flats  Training  Center  is                                                            
similar, in that the funding source would be changed.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman referenced  that the aforementioned  Board  summary                                                            
does not include these items.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney affirmed because these are technical changes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked how  this complies  with the bonding  package                                                            
approved by voters in the previous election.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  stated that  these technical  changes are in  compliance                                                            
with the bonding package.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde spoke to  the intent to provide training to unemployed                                                            
and  underemployed  adults  and  asked  if  any  research  has  been                                                            
conducted  to  determine  whether  participants   obtain  jobs  upon                                                            
completion of the program.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney assured that extensive follow-up occurs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked  whether  training is  provided  for fields  in                                                            
which jobs are available.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney emphasized that  before a program is offered, significant                                                            
demand is identified  for training in a particular  field. Once this                                                            
training  is provided  and  a workforce  available,  she stated  the                                                            
program is  relocated to another community  to meet demands  in that                                                            
location.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  spoke  of  frustration  for  graduates  who  receive                                                            
training then are unable to apply it.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney spoke of the close relationships with communities.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B. Stevens cited  the Governor's  proposed budget  includes                                                            
$120.9 million  of university receipts for capital  projects and the                                                            
request for $98 million  is included in the proposed FY 04 operating                                                            
budget  and asked  whether  the  University  is requesting  a  total                                                            
amount of $218 million or if some "overlap" is occurring.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney replied  that  a "very  small  overlap"  exists in  that                                                            
funding for planning is included in the operating budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  explained  that  the  bookstore  and  housing  projects                                                            
requests overlap  in the capital and operating budgets  because some                                                            
funds would  be generated from university  receipts and included  in                                                            
the capital budget  and other funds are generated  from debt service                                                            
on bonds and included in the operating budget.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B.  Stevens  requested   documentation  of  non-duplicable                                                             
expenditures for the previous five years.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney stated that she would provide this information.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  recalled that the existing  bookstore is required  to                                                            
breakeven or earn  a profit and asked if this would  be required for                                                            
the new facility.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney responded this is the expectation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked if  the  new  dormitory  would also  be  self-                                                            
sufficient.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  stated  that  revenues  generated   from  the  existing                                                            
dormitory   units  pay   operating  expenses   plus  contribute   to                                                            
university receipts.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Co-Chair Green commented  that the requests included in the proposed                                                            
budget  distribute  funds  primarily  to  Fairbanks,  Anchorage  and                                                            
Juneau. She  asserted that  other campuses  have needs that  are not                                                            
included.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  asked how  the bookstore  and  dormitory  projects                                                            
would be undertaken if adequate funding were not appropriated.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  spoke to  the amount  of funds needed  to complete  both                                                            
projects and indicated  that if not appropriated by the legislature,                                                            
attempts would be made  to secure funding from other sources, or the                                                            
projects  would be  addressed with  funding requested  over  several                                                            
fiscal years.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney then  addressed the Board of Regent's funding  request of                                                            
$42.4  million in  State funding  plus  $108 million  in  University                                                            
receipt authority.  She remarked  the projects  not included  in the                                                            
Governor's proposed budget  are University-wide at main campuses and                                                            
community  campuses and necessary  to maintain  a solid foundation.                                                             
She  informed  that  these  are  primarily   small  items,  such  as                                                            
renovating  a classroom to change  disciplines, parking structures,                                                             
exterior refurbishing,  etc. She pointed  that any institution  with                                                            
$1.2 billion of  facilities, a regular investment  is necessary. She                                                            
asserted  that the $17 million  proposed is  "far below" the  amount                                                            
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  asked  whether  the  University   has historically                                                             
depended upon the legislature to provide funds for maintenance.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  assured this is not basic  maintenance, which  is funded                                                            
through  the operating  budget. She  clarified this  request is  for                                                            
funding of boiler replacement and similar expenses.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  asked if the University therefore  does not maintain                                                            
a  building fund  similar  to  private businesses  to  address  such                                                            
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney replied that  such a fund is not maintained in all cases.                                                            
She noted that a 30-year  old laboratory is insufficient for current                                                            
research and educational  needs. She noted that some facilities have                                                            
"sinking funds" with which to address maintenance issues.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney continued  her  presentation of  the  Board of  Regent's                                                            
budget  request,  speaking   to the  necessity   of  attracting  and                                                            
retaining students, noted  that the amount of University contributed                                                            
funding is higher than the amount requested of the State.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman commented  on the difficulties in retaining students                                                            
at rural  campuses. He informed  that he  discussed the matter  with                                                            
President  Mark Hamilton  and was informed  that additional  efforts                                                            
are  necessary.  Senator  Hoffman  cited that  graduation  rates  of                                                            
freshmen  are very low and  asked no action  is proposed to  address                                                            
this concern.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  replied that  operating budget  funding could be  better                                                            
applied to  this issue. She told of  significant efforts  undertaken                                                            
at  the Bethel  campus  and of  pilot programs  underway  to  secure                                                            
retention of students.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  described  the  My  UA  Portal  project,  intended  for                                                            
attracting  and retaining  students.  She explained  this  "computer                                                            
technology  concept" that  would bring the  University of Alaska  to                                                            
levels  similar  to other  universities  in  information  technology                                                            
delivery of services, both business and instructional.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked  if  this would  be an  online  version of  the                                                            
existing catalog.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney emphasized it  would more sophisticated and would include                                                            
syllabuses coursework,  adviser contact, business services, ordering                                                            
of books  and  materials and  other  services for  distant  learning                                                            
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  noted the  benefits  provided  to the  children  of                                                            
University  employees  to  attend  tuition-free.  He  surmised  that                                                            
because of  this program all college-age  children would  attend the                                                            
University; however,  he has learned that 96 percent  were attending                                                            
other schools.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  next addressed the Board's  budget requests targeted  at                                                            
preparing  for  Alaska's economic  success,  including  nursing  and                                                            
vocational  technical training. She  told of significant  efforts to                                                            
provide nursing  education and cited the workforce  need is expected                                                            
to  continue  through  the  year  2020.  She  anticipated  that  the                                                            
University  would be unable to fulfill  the need to provide  trained                                                            
nursing personnel within 20 years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  asked the number of  students currently enrolled  in                                                            
the nursing program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney listed  110  graduations  with  intent to  increase  the                                                            
number to 220  graduates. She informed  that 300 nursing  majors are                                                            
attending the  University with 800 students on the  waiting list for                                                            
the  program. She  stated  that education  services  are offered  in                                                            
Anchorage,  Fairbanks and Kodiak,  with plans to expand services  to                                                            
Juneau and Bethel.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor asked  about  the Tanana  Valley  Community  College                                                            
(TVCC) relocation to the Fairbanks courthouse building.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney responded  that  the TVCC  received the  old  courthouse                                                            
building;  however it  must be  renovated. She  stated the  facility                                                            
would be utilized for the delivery of different courses.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor asked  if the  TVCC was  moving out  of its  current                                                            
location.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pitney  informed  that  the  TVCC  has  outgrown   the  current                                                            
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  referenced  a book  describing  the  TVCC and  its                                                            
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  redescribed the proposed  construction of major  science                                                            
facilities in  Anchorage and Fairbanks, indicating  that funding for                                                            
these projects would be requested the following fiscal year.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman commented  that the nursing program has had a lot of                                                            
success, and asked  why it has a lower priority than  small business                                                            
development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  replied that the Small  Business Development  Center has                                                            
been historically  funded at one level  and that a funding  increase                                                            
is needed.  She surmised that the  evaluation process, prioritizing                                                             
projects  according to category  could have  resulted in the  higher                                                            
priority assigned to the Small Business Development Center.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman preferred  prioritization of all projects regardless                                                            
of whether they are categorized  as pertaining to the attraction and                                                            
retention of students, beneficial to economic development, etc.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney  stated  she would  relay that  message to  the Board  of                                                            
Regents.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  opined that  bonding  does  not appear  to  provide                                                            
adequate funding for the proposed projects.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pitney relayed the  intent had been to utilize bonding generated                                                            
revenue  to partially  fund proposed  projects,  including the  Lena                                                            
Point laboratory  in Juneau and the science facilities  in Anchorage                                                            
and  Fairbanks.  She furthered  that  additional  funding  would  be                                                            
requested to cover the remaining costs.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  commented that he  did not realize this at  the time                                                            
the bonding package was approved the previous year.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor thanked the witness for her presentation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  referenced a handout  titled, "Village Safe  Water,                                                            
Community Totals"  [copy on file] which, although  does not directly                                                            
pertain to the discussion,  could provide information to members. He                                                            
thanked Departmental  personnel for their efforts  on compiling this                                                            
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Assessment  of Health  Risks From Use  of Diesel Fuel  in Rural                                                            
     Alaska                                                                                                                     
     $768,300                                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 38513                                                                                                       
     Category: Natural Resources                                                                                                
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2006                                                                           
     One-Time Project                                                                                                           
     Rural  Alaska communities  are  facing a  major decision  about                                                            
     diesel fuel use. By  2007, they must decide to either incur the                                                            
     costs of  building a separate and new fuel tank  infrastructure                                                            
     for handling a new  cleaner diesel fuel for trucks and buses or                                                            
     convert their  entire community fuel use for  electrical power,                                                            
     heating  and vehicles to the  cleaner diesel fuel. Either  case                                                            
     will  incur significant  costs for  the community, individuals                                                             
     and perhaps  the State. This  decision can not be made  without                                                            
     knowing the health  risks and health costs of continuing to use                                                            
     the existing grade diesel fuel for power and heat.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  MAHER,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Environmental Conservation,  introduced Mr.  Chappel.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TOM  CHAPPEL,   Director,  Division   of  Air  and  Water   Quality,                                                            
Department   of  Environmental  Conservation,   noted  the   federal                                                            
Environmental   Protection  Agency  (EPA)  has  passed  regulations                                                             
applying to trucks  and vehicles. He told of the need  to understand                                                            
the health  impacts  on rural Alaskan  residents,  as existing  data                                                            
applies  to national  highway  use  only. He  pointed  out that  the                                                            
majority of  diesel fuel is utilized  for power generation  in rural                                                            
Alaskan communities  than for  trucks and buses  as occurs  in other                                                            
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  assumed that if the studies indicate  a conversion is                                                            
advisable,  a substantial  expense would be  required. He asked  the                                                            
estimate of this expense.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel  gave  speculation of  the increased  costs. He  relayed                                                            
that the new fuel  is manufactured in the state of  Washington at an                                                            
additional  cost of five  to ten  cents per gallon.  He pointed  out                                                            
this does  not include  shipment  to rural Alaskan  communities  and                                                            
other factors  that could  increase the amount  as much as  40 cents                                                            
more. He surmised that  during the first year, a "sorting out of the                                                            
market" would  occur before the actual  price of the new  fuel would                                                            
be established.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde predicted  that  eventually,  the new  fuel would  be                                                            
required and  suggested the funds  proposed for this study  could be                                                            
better spent on the new fuel.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor inquired about the use of federal funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel  responded that the State  has determined this  study is                                                            
important,  although  the federal  government  has  yet to  announce                                                            
whether  it would  fund  the  project. He  stated  that "compelling                                                             
inference,"  indicates  the  new fuel  would  dominate  the  market,                                                            
possibly necessitating the conversions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Taylor  understood  the concerns  but  suggested  they  are                                                            
misplaced.  He  doubted  significant  evidence  could  be  found  to                                                            
determine  health risks  between  the two  fuels.  He suggested  the                                                            
focus should be  the costs involved in the conversions.  He remarked                                                            
that  the current  health  risk assessments  apply  to Los  Angeles,                                                            
California, and  possibly Anchorage and Fairbanks,  but not to rural                                                            
Alaskan communities. He  stressed the Legislature must make a policy                                                            
call  as  to the  amount  the  State  should spend  to  implement  a                                                            
decision made in Washington D.C.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  asked what  federal receipts  would be used  to fund                                                            
this project  and whether the funds  would be diverted from  another                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel replied that  the Department would request federal funds                                                            
specifically for  this study. He asserted that health  consequences,                                                            
if any, are unknown.  He stated that if the new fuel  cost ten cents                                                            
more per  gallon and  no health  consequences  were identified,  the                                                            
Department could argue against making conversions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  questioned  how the conversion  could be avoided  if                                                            
only the new fuel  is manufactured. He pointed out  that air quality                                                            
problems  have  only   occurred  in  Fairbanks  and  Anchorage   and                                                            
suggested any studies should be conducted in those locations.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Taylor  commented that funds directed from  the EPA would be                                                            
acceptable for this project.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  understood fuels  are assessed different  taxes and                                                            
diesel used for  motor vehicles is distinguished through  the use of                                                            
blue dye. He asked how  the fuels are differentiated in rural areas.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel replied that  rural Alaskan communities are not required                                                            
to separate the fuels.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if the health  impacts of the different  diesel                                                            
fuels are  studied elsewhere,  possibly by  the national Center  for                                                            
Disease Control.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel  affirmed that  significant data  has been collected  in                                                            
areas along  major roadways and in  neighborhoods near roadways.  He                                                            
stated that this  information has established that  the health risks                                                            
justify  the  higher cost  of  the  cleaner fuel  for  these  areas.                                                            
However, he reiterated  that no data exists for areas far from major                                                            
roadways.  He relayed that  the Department  has discussed the  issue                                                            
with the  Center for Toxic  Disease, although  the CDC has  not been                                                            
involved to date.  He noted that if the project progresses,  the CDC                                                            
would be included in the assessment.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked if the  CDC were involved  whether that  agency                                                            
would provide funds.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Chappel  assured the  Department would  attempt to secure  funds                                                            
from any potential source.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  predicted  that  because  the  usage  in  Alaska  is                                                            
considerably  less than in  the Lower 48,  continued manufacture  of                                                            
the older fuel  solely for use in Alaska is unlikely.  He referenced                                                            
Senator Taylor's  opinion  that it is acceptable  to expend  federal                                                            
funds for this  project. Senator Bunde commented on  public concerns                                                            
regarding  the  State's total  budget,  citing  this project  as  an                                                            
example of increased spending.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Contaminated Sites Cleanup                                                                                       
     $5,000,000 Oil/Haz funds                                                                                                   
     Reference No.: 33826                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     This  CIP funds  assessment  and  cleanup of  highest  priority                                                            
     state-owned  sites  or sites  where  the responsible  party  is                                                            
     unknown  or  has  refused  to  take  appropriate  action.  Work                                                            
     includes  site assessment,  corrective  action plan, clean  up,                                                            
     monitoring and final site closure.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LARRY  DIETRICK,   Director,  Division   of  Spill  Prevention   and                                                            
Response, Department  of Environmental  Conservation, outlined  this                                                            
item.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  the success  rate  of  recouping  funds  from                                                            
businesses or other entities.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dietrick  gave the  three-year average  recuperation rate  at 90                                                            
percent.  He elaborated that  some payments  are not received  until                                                            
after  the   cleanup  is  completed   and  some  instances   require                                                            
litigation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the  amount of the remaining  ten percent  that                                                            
would remain unrecoverable.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Mr.  Dietrick replied  that  this information  is  contained in  the                                                            
biannual  report  the  Department  is  required  to  submit  to  the                                                            
legislature. He stated he would provide a copy to Senator Olson.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  for an estimation  of when  all the  cleanup                                                            
projects would be completed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Dietrick  responded  that  133  State-owned   sites  have  been                                                            
identified as in "need  of attention", at an estimated total cost of                                                            
$67 million. He  qualified that some sites would require  additional                                                            
funds and others would require less funding than predicted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Spill Response Depots and Corps System                                                                              
     $300,000 Oil/Haz Funds                                                                                                     
     Reference No.: 37792                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     This  project  will provide  funds  to maintain  readiness  and                                                            
     response   capabilities  in   local  communities  through   the                                                            
     purchase  of response  equipment  and delivery  of training  to                                                            
     local  responders.  The  project  will also  provide  funds  to                                                            
     develop  specific geographic  response  strategies and  tactics                                                            
     for the protection  of critical environmentally sensitive areas                                                            
     of the  State and areas of public  concern. Wherever  possible,                                                            
     matching funds for these projects will be sought from local                                                                
     communities, other government agencies, and other parties.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dietrick  explained this project  would allow the Department  to                                                            
communicate  with local parties "over  the phone" to direct  cleanup                                                            
activities.  He stated this  would result in  cost savings  with the                                                            
elimination  of travel expenses and  the need to contract  services.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked the  original source of  the Oil and  Hazardous                                                            
Response funds.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dietrick  detailed the  Response fund  originally was  generated                                                            
from a  nickel-per-barrel  tax imposed  on crude  oil production  in                                                            
Alaska.  He  stated that in 1995,  the legislature adjusted  the tax                                                            
rate to "a two-cent  three-cent", explaining this  funding source is                                                            
generated from the three cents per barrel collected.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  understood this fund  balance has a limitation,  at                                                            
which time the tax is no longer imposed.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dietrick  affirmed and explained  that once the balance  reaches                                                            
$50 million,  the two-cent  tax collected  for the Reserve  Response                                                            
Account, is suspended.  He noted the tax has not been  collected for                                                            
five years.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Data Integration                                                                                                           
     $580,000 federal receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 37972                                                                                                       
     Category: Development                                                                                                      
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2005                                                                           
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     The  Department of  Environmental Conservation  is integrating                                                             
     the many sources of  information within the department for more                                                            
     efficient  and effective management, regulating  and service to                                                            
     the public.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maher explained  this funding  is a grant and would be  utilized                                                            
with the intent  to make information  accessible to decision  makers                                                            
and the public. He stated  the grant has two parts: one for external                                                            
integration of  the four states included in "Region  10", and a one-                                                            
stop grant  for internal  integration, designed  to extend  funds to                                                            
programs within the Department.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maher relayed  that Commissioner  Ernesta Ballard requested  the                                                            
Department  completely  overhaul all  data operations  from the  web                                                            
site to developing on-line permitting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Municipal Water, Sewer and Solid Waste Matching Grant Projects                                                             
     $6,447,100 AHFC (Alaska Housing Finance Corporation) Dividend                                                              
     $6,708,800 federal receipts                                                                                                
     $10,721,300 general funds                                                                                                  
     Reference No.: 33824                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     Grants to larger communities for municipal water, sewer, and                                                               
     solid waste planning, design and construction projects. Grants                                                             
     require a local match of 15% - 50% of project costs.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DAN  EASTON,  Director,   Division  of  Facility  Construction   and                                                            
Operation, Department of  Environmental Conservation, testified that                                                            
the mission of  the Division is to "assist communities  in improving                                                            
sanitation conditions."  He stated the Division accomplishes this by                                                            
making  loans  and  grants  available  and  otherwise  working  with                                                            
communities  to build water,  sewer and solid  waste facilities.  He                                                            
noted this item and the remaining items address this purpose.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton  explained  this item  addresses larger  communities  and                                                            
detailed the  application process  in which the Department  assesses                                                            
need based  on public health and environmental  conditions,  as well                                                            
as the  communities' record  of operating  and maintaining  existing                                                            
water  and  waste  facilities.   He  pointed  out  the  local  match                                                            
requirement  of 15  to 20  percent and  that the  program is  funded                                                            
primarily with State funds,  although federal funds could be used in                                                            
some smaller  communities located  away from the major road  system.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde clarified  this  program  funds the  construction  of                                                            
facilities and  that the ongoing operating and maintenance  expenses                                                            
would be the responsibility of the community.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Village Safe Water Project Administration                                                                                  
     $506,400 AHFC Dividend                                                                                                     
     $1,519,100 federal receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 33820                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     Village  Safe Water  project  administration  is the  operating                                                            
     cost  of delivering  Village  Safe  Water engineers  and  other                                                            
     program  staff,  as  well  as  associated  travel,   contracts,                                                            
     supplies and equipment.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton noted  the Village Safe Water project provides  grants to                                                            
the smallest communities  for water, sewer and solid waste projects.                                                            
He detailed  the process whereby proposals  are submitted  each year                                                            
and  ranked  by  the  Department  according  to  public  health  and                                                            
environmental  criteria,  as well  as  the community's  capacity  to                                                            
operate  and  maintain  the  system. He  pointed  out  these  grants                                                            
require  no local match  and that  the projects  are funded  with 75                                                            
percent federal funds and 25 percent State matching funds.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton  noted this item  is essentially  the same amount  as the                                                            
current year.   He stated  that this funding  is transferred  to the                                                            
Department's  operating  budget  and expended  for  engineering  and                                                            
other costs associated with managing the project.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked if operation and maintenance  of the facilities                                                            
is the responsibility of the community.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked how successful this program has been.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton replied  that the program has been "largely  successful".                                                            
He assured  that if the  Department determines  that a community  is                                                            
not capable of operating  and maintaining the system, the project is                                                            
not undertaken in that area.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  asked if  the  State  has been  required  to  assume                                                            
responsibility of the system in any communities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Easton  responded  that  the  Department   does  not  have  the                                                            
capability  to  assume  operations.  He noted  that  the  Department                                                            
employs remote  maintenance workers in cases of emergency  such as a                                                            
fire, to assist  in making the system operational  again. He defined                                                            
the success  of communities  as  those undertaking  good  preventive                                                            
maintenance, collecting  fees to operate the facility  and employing                                                            
a certified  operator. He  cited no instances  in which a  community                                                            
was deemed  absolutely  incapable of  operating the  system and  the                                                            
system had to be shut down.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  referenced the use  of AHFC dividend funds  for this                                                            
item and asked whether  these funds were included in the information                                                            
provided to the Committee by the AHFC.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  assumed this "claim  on the dividend" is  included.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
It was established  that the $19,708,000 AHFC funding  for this item                                                            
this is in addition to the dividend appropriated to the State.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked the  efforts of the Department with the Denali                                                            
Commission  regarding village sustainability  for utility  projects.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Easton replied  that  the  Department  is involved  with  other                                                            
agencies  in a Sustainable  Utility  Steering  Committee within  the                                                            
Denali Commission, to create village sustainability.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken requested  a brief explanation  of the interaction                                                             
with the Denali  Commission and the  progress of sustainability.  He                                                            
noted that  the commissioner  has  "taken a different  look"  at the                                                            
statutory requirements  relating to  the Village Safe Water  program                                                            
and  asked  how this  assessment  has  been  integrated  within  the                                                            
Department. He  asked if the proposed projects had  been scrutinized                                                            
with the new criteria.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Easton  responded  that  the proposed  projects  had  not  been                                                            
reassessed,  noting  this  budget   request  is  a  continuation  of                                                            
previous years. He emphasized the complexity of the matter.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Village Safe Water Feasibility Studies                                                                                     
     $736,600 AHFC Dividend                                                                                                     
     $2,209,200 federal receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.: 33821                                                                                                       
     Category: Health/Human Services                                                                                            
     Location: Statewide                                                                                                        
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2003 - 06/30/2008                                                                           
     State Match Required                                                                                                       
     On-going Project                                                                                                           
     Grants  to communities  for preparing  engineering feasibility                                                             
     studies.  The studies identify designs and operating  costs for                                                            
     sanitation  facilities that are appropriate for  the community.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton  noted the  amount requested  for this  item in FY  04 is                                                            
approximately $373,000 less than the current year appropriation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Easton  thanked Co-Chair Wilken  for his remarks on the  Village                                                            
Safe Water  database. Mr.  Easton expressed  embarrassment  over the                                                            
four years required  to complete the exercise, emphasizing  that the                                                            
delays were primarily  in collecting information from  sources other                                                            
than the  Department. He  spoke to the importance  of the  completed                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken adjourned the meeting at 11:00 AM                                                                          

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